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For Simone Weil, who is the one talking to them, raw force is the main driver of history. It envelops people, nations, society, and swallows them up like a locust swarm from which there is no escape. The very existence of an army dictates that war, and whichever nation is able to be more powerful in pure force dictates the ideology, culture, and society of humanity, not the other way around.

For example, if the Nazis had been strong enough to win, it would have become the default ideology. The Romans spread Roman and Greek thought and culture by force. Christianity was largely spread by force as well. If we encounter aliens, it may very well be aliens who spread through force.